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Unread 05-05-2014, 14:12
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Re: Monsanto?!

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber View Post
I'll say the same thing I said privately then: That argument is flawed. It means that any arguments (or at least any parallels we could draw) are based on the assumption that Monsanto has done something illegal (or, has not paid the court ordered penalty for illegal actions if they DID do something illegal). You may call them morally repugnant (and there's a chance I'd even agree with that) but to claim they have broken the law and not paid all legally required penalties is a dangerous road to tread on.
Please find where I claimed they have broken the law. You won't be able to, because I didn't. You're attempting to insert assumptions about the intents of my statements that aren't actually present in my statements. Please read what I read and take it literally, rather inserting your own biases when you attempt to read between the lines.

My point was rhetorical. My choice of using the mafia was intended to find an organization that everyone could find obvious flaws with and largely contempt towards, as well as drawing a parallel to the real word activities of the Yakuza in Japan after the 2011 tsunami. The idea was to demonstrate that even "morally repugnant" organizations can do good deeds. Rather than follow was is essentially a ad hominem attack on the organization, this action of the organization should be viewed on its own merits.

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Now, what discussion should we be having here? A discussion about whether a company that makes its profits in ways that some of us call questionable should be allowed to donate to groups? A discussion whether FIRST should have turned away funding from a company that makes its profits this way? Or can we just be happy that some of this, in your opinion, ill gotten money is being given back to a group that isn't bad?

I'm cool having any of those discussions, but if this is going to turn into comparing a legal company to an organization focused on illegal activities or in attacking specific companies I'm not so sure that this is the proper forum.
You seem to grasp the basic point of my comment. Rather than attempting to spin my post into something it was not meant to be, and which nobody but yourself has drawn publically, you can chose to continue with the conversation.