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Re: Suggestion for a new overall approach

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Originally Posted by Siri View Post
Just so it's clear, I'm not saying there is a downside to doing this if the game is going to fit the bill. I don't see a downside, but I'm not the GDC. As I said, if there is, the probability on the upside isn't very strong in terms of counteracting.

Now, getting the game to fit the bill is a different issue. Simply making/executing highly cooperative games has its own set of challenges, and I wouldn't blame the GDC if they're not ready to tackle it twice. For instance, if they can't come up with a way to do so that meets all their other specs while not overburdening their refs and technology while forcing down game/officiation quality, I could see this type of cooperation taking a back seat.
I think we differ on the probability of success may be higher than you think. The alliance captains of the two Einstein finalists have publicly announced that assertively stepping up their efforts at support in the pits was an important component of their success in this year's Championship. (Your team was a highly valued member of our alliance and a beneficiary, even if indirectly, of our efforts.) Just as 1114's 2008 "claw" was an influential model for this year's game, I would hope that 254's and 1678's rather public displays in the Curie and Newton Divisions will cause other teams to step forward.

I think the plea by the previous poster illustrates the need for this type of outreach much earlier than January if FIRST is really going to expand its footprint. (I say more in replay to the above.)

As for fixing the officiating issues, I think it's fairly simple. Before this year, a separate group did the actual scoring (of course after the match in those cases), but they simply need to reinstitute a separate scoring table. Our scouts were able to easily keep up on our live webcasts (see Inland Empire and Sacramento Regionals.) Giving the refs a single screen to look at will allow them to follow the relevant action more easily. The other foul issues were independent of the cooperative play aspect (e.g. G40 reaching fouls.)