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Originally Posted by tindleroot
I was thinking the same thing about possession. Upon further investigation I found out that unless there was a rule change I did not know about, it should not have counted for possession. Here is the FIRST definition of possession in the rule book:
“carrying” (moving while supporting BALLS in or on the ROBOT or holding the BALL in or on the ROBOT),
“herding” (repeated pushing or bumping),
“launching” (impelling BALLS to a desired location or direction via a MECHANISM in motion relative to the ROBOT), or
“trapping” (overt isolation or holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them).
All of these definitions require that the robot actually moves either a manipulator or the whole robot in order to direct the ball. By definition, the hard bounce is NOT possession. No idea why they counted it. However, there was a rule change for IRI saying that zones don't matter for assists, not sure if that affected anything judgment-wise.
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As I previously explained earlier in the thread, 2056's catapult deflected when the ball hit it. They didn't just bounce the ball off a rigid part of the robot - they bounced the ball of their catapult while it was in the "just fired" position. As the catapult went in and back out, the robot was LAUNCHING the ball and it counts as an assist.
In general, rather than assuming a world class FRC team and the reffing crew at the most prestigious off season in the country were all unaware of the rules, I would consider that maybe there's something you're missing or isn't obvious from a web cast.