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Unread 30-10-2014, 22:39
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Re: pic: FRC558's modified VEXpro Drive in a Day

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Originally Posted by JesseK View Post
Damage to your own robot, stating 6 CIMs are useful for hits and other things, saying 6 CIM agility plays well into a SMASH (...) strategy, you don't think you did non-superficial damage (pretty rude statement in multiple aspects, IMO).
How is that a rude statement? Could you honestly claim any better than "I don't believe we did any serious damage to other robots" if you were playing any sort of defense this year, unless you specifically went to the pit of every team you faced after every match and checked, and had perfect memory to boot? Robot-to-robot contact of any sort has the potential to cause damage. To pretend this is not the case would be dishonest. Acknowledging this is not rude - to the contrary, I think it'd be rather rude to not hedge my claim in that way.

You are reading what you want to, not what I am saying - I did not say "6 CIM agility plays well into a SMASH strategy." I said that 6-CIM agility allowed us to be successful in a defensive strategy that did not involve serious collisions. "ROBOT ANGRY, ROBOT SMASH" is obvious caricature, and was presented as an example of precisely what we were not doing.

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It's like you state one thing, but the tone of how you word it makes a completely different statement, particularly in context of witnessing 4464 do hit, after hit, after hit, after hit in DC. All in the name of supposed "positioning" that you supposedly just can't get with 4 CIMs.
You stated in a previous thread (and I quote) "I don't fault 4464 for its defense this year since it was actually pretty clean relative to other matches I've watched." Where is this "hit after hit after hit" coming from, now? Where were we unreasonable in our defense this year? We made a point of not gaining much speed before contacting other robots this year, both because it was likely to cause damage (to their robot and ours) and because it is not particularly effective defense (unless, of course, you've got no class and are trying to disable the other robot - I think we're all better than that here) - sustained pushing is far more effective for interrupting an opponent's play.

I think you are reading it in a tone you want to read given your experience this year. I am in no way a proponent of NFL linebacker-type play in FRC, nor was my post indicating such.
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