I agree with the last pervious posts, in that a KOTH bot will be successful if it can do what it sets out to. My problem is when they start claiming they will prevent other robots from getting on their side in auto mode
My suggestion to KOTH bots is to play the match like normal then take the hill at the end. I would try to controll traffic accross the field during the match unless you are in a terrible losing position. This is, as i'm sure you all thought of (and probably what made that strategy so attractive to you), you can get 50 points from the top of the ramp, more then all the bins are without stacking.
Wait, I just told you what you already knew
I can be very productive some times.
I think maybe the bar hasn't been discussed enough. A stacker robot that can go under the bar could "easily" take a stack from the winning KOTH team (HP stack of 4 probably) and drop it over the bar. Go under the bar, push those bins into scoreing position-- BOOM, instant 8 pt change in the game. Only the stacker team will probably have at least a stack of 4; so its really a 20 pt change.
I also see the bar limiting KOTH teams from having both robots on top of the ramp at the end of a match--- As both of them attempt to get on the HDPE to score 50 points, the sneaky stacker dashes under the bar and starts lowering their score. Oh no! So now to prevent this, only one KOTH bots can be on the ramp. Thats 25 points, or the equivlant of putting one bin on another with half of the bins in play.
KOTH bots really do depend on accomplishing a lot in auto mode. They
NEED to
1) Get to the wall first
2) Knock most of the bins onto their side.
3) Anchor and let no robots past
Which I see being very difficult when there are 2 robots trying to stop that.
And then there's the issue of the KOTH's partner. What's he to do? Who will push bins into the scoreing zone? I know there will be at least 1 opponent robot still trying to push them up and over the ramp, probably destroying your score as well. So I see the following thing happen in a KOTH match:
1) KOTH knocks wall down and anchors.
2) Opponents push all of KOTH's bins out of scoreing position.
3) KOTH partner pushes all of Opponents bins out of scoreing position.
4) Score = 25 - 0 or 50 - 0. Wow, wasn't that productive?
This assumes no robots go under the bar, and the KOTH acts as a wall (which I don't think it will do). This means I DONT THINK THE KOTH WILL BE PREVENTING TRAFFIC OVER THE RAMP (I put that in caps so the next 3 posts don't quote me and tell me that I'm wrong because of the perviously mentioned sentance
).
Wow that really didnt make much sense did it? Ramble ramble ramble...
Greg