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Re: Two Recycle Bins on a Stack of Totes

Figures 3-4 & 3-5 and the Table 3-2:Teleop Point Values. (Scored RECYCLING CONTAINER 4 per LEVEL) Level is defined elsewhere lowest level of the Recycle Container. (But remember Level 1 cannot be reached until you stack at least 1 Grey Bin first...See Figure 3-4). There is no rule (that I can find), against what you are doing or intending...and laying it down in the gap will hold it there quite nicely.

But, there is no advantage to what you intend. As if that were a 4 + 4 stacks (can't see the bottom from the rendering), or 2 stacks of 4 grey bins each, placing that can there would attain the following point values 8 bins X 2 points each=16 points, plus 1 Recycle Bin=4 points X Level 4 or 4X4=16 Points, plus 6 points for the properly scored litter (I see it peeking up there). (30 points total if they are 2 stacks of 3 bins....RC4X3 Levels=12+Bins12+6Litter=30 which it what that rendering actually shows).

Or, a grand total of 30 points as pictured...(Then the refs would throw a red card at you, for building the extra backstops on the field...LOL. Just Joking.)

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RECYCLING CONTAINERS
A RECYCLING CONTAINER is scored if it is fully supported by only scored Gray TOTES. Points for a scored RECYCLING
CONTAINER are awarded based on the lowest LEVEL in which any portion of the RECYCLING CONTAINER resides. In Figure 3-4, colors have been added to indicate the LEVELS on the BACKSTOP. In both examples (A and B), the lowest part of the RECYCLING CONTAINER is in LEVEL 3.


"A RECYCLING CONTAINER is scored if it is fully supported by only scored Gray TOTES." (Emphasis Mine)...Therefore, if you attempted to set Gray Tote down, and put 2 stacked Recycling Containers on top of it and each other as in Tote/RC/RC/Litter. The grey tote would score (2 points), the lower RC would score 4X1 level or 4 points, the upper RC would not score & the litter would not score (in fact it would be +4 for the other alliance as unprocessed litter), as it is not "fully supported by only scored grey totes." (It would actually be supported by only a scoring Recycling Container).

That is my reading anyway (this game has a whole lot to be considered)...But, of course the FIRST Q&A is the proper place to ask that question as I am reading the rule very literally there, and some could say including the Q&A, that I lawyered the rule and accept the Gray Tote/RC/RC Stack. (Nothing we say here on CD has any bearing on the actual FIRST FRC Game Rules). Q&A opens Jan. 7th.....I see many, many questions already.

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