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Thanks guys. Like I said...still learning. (SIMS are COTS items also), but are listed...I expected to find them on the list too (or at least see the highlighted words added to R18).

R18 The only motors and Electrical solenoid actuators permitted on 2015 FRC ROBOTS include the following: Or, a line added at the bottom of Table 4-1 like "Motor Driven Actuators allowed if supplied and/or fitted w/ a motor listed in Table 4-1: Legal Motors above." Limited (see motor limits above).

And, the answer to someones question in the Q&A I read today, really confused me about these particular Actuators.

So all 3 of the others in the thread are cots items also...But, Dart has the 2 lengths 6" & 12" whipped because they need no adapting whatsoever to install your CIM and just go. Smooth.

Thanks again.