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Re: G28, Q&A 83, and Noodling a Can Without Touching it

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard View Post
This QnA response is ridiculous.... It really breaks the game from what was clearly intended.

That being said, FIRST has been pretty reasonable with this stuff recently... I'm confidant they will fix it soon.
OK so looking at the rule as written, even without the Q&A clarification, these actions are, by the letter of the rule, illegal. Here is the Rule as copied from the manual:

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G27 ROBOTS and anything they control, e.g. a TOTE, may not contact anything outside the FIELD.
VIOLATION: Offending ROBOT will be DISABLED.

In order to allow for the ROBOT to Can to LITTER contact, they just need to make an exception for LITTER partially through the hole.

In order to allow for the ROBOT to grab the TOTEs once the CHUTE door is open, they need to make an exception for TOTEs in the CHUTE provided no other rules are violated (particularly G6 and G6-1)

The reason I believe the intent was for field personnel safety is the blue box, quoted below:

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Please be conscious of REFEREES and FIELD staff working around the ARENA who may be in close proximity to your ROBOT.
I am certain the GDC will clarify this and make it perfectly acceptable to grab the TOTE from the chute as long as no other rules are violated.

Paul
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