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Re: 2005 KOP Transmission use in 2015??

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Originally Posted by xmaskid96 View Post
It really isn't fabricated and all we would be doing to it is changing the gear ratios and position. Is this legal?
Whoa. Big bag of misconceptions here. First you have to classify them!

#1: These were shipped unassembled. Assembly makes them Fabricated Items. (1 whack with the electronic manual for not knowing that and assuming they aren't fabricated items)
#2: These are COTS, discontinued (AndyMark sold them for a couple of years after that). (1 piece of knowledge that you didn't have)
#3: These WERE KOP parts, meaning they are still KOP parts. (1 trip to read the Manual)
#4: You are making a change to the gearbox, making it a Fabricated Item within the current build season.

To me... #4 is the important item. You're taking a COTS "Fabricated Item" (#2 and #1) that is accounted for by R9B (#3) and making a significant modification. This makes it a Fabricated Item for the 2015 season, that gets its cost accounting from KOP and the current value of any gearing/shaft changes.

tl;dr: It's legal, but not for the reasons you're thinking (see below). That is my opinion, your LRI and/or the GDC may have another opinion, and theirs is the one that matters. You may choose to ask Q&A something like "We have a gearbox from a previous KOP. It is no longer COTS as a new item. We are planning to modify it. Does this make it a Fabricated Item and thus legal for 2015, and if so how do we deal with the cost accounting?"

That being said, your use of R12 and R13 is a red herring. Take a close look at R12C's wording again, as well as the blue box--this doesn't fit that (at least, I think that's what you're referring to). R13 does not apply at all because you're dealing with a KOP/COTS part. You really wanted the COTS definition and the KOP definition (and the definition of Fabricated Item) from Section 6.
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