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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber
. There are many other competitions in which students do 100% of the work with limited mentor involvement, FRC is different.
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The other has mentors working with students.
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I think for the thread to have progress we need to agree on what "student-lead" means, because I do not think "student-lead" is even remotely close to "no mentors"
I believe that the defining factor of "student-lead" teams is that students ultimately have the responsibility to make executive decisions on a team. This does not preclude heavily involved mentors providing guidance and assistance, but it does mean that said mentors would ultimately defer to the students.
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, much of the bad blood regarding this debate comes from only considering one extreme. (And of course, the resulting backlash from teams that feel they are being unfairly characterized because of this extreme position... case in point my own post earlier
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I don't think it's hard to accept that when someone says "student-run", they by no means mean "100% students 0% mentors". (And vice-versa) Neither extreme is healthy for a team, neither extreme is an accurate portrayal of 99.99% of teams, and neither view is constructive to furthering this discussion.