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Re: The math of the cans...

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Originally Posted by Boltman View Post
I agree and will add that this game sort of levels the "skill" you need to compete and a high level. Its a very "blue collar" type game. So teams that take a mentality of building a workman like robot will do well especially if versatile enough to do any task.

This does not require an advanced mechanism. I think you will be surprised that some "dark horse" teams make it to Einstein along with the Powerhouses. Because they have shown to be valuable in ever changing game conditions this year...sort of like a Wes Welker or Danny Woodhead like robot.

This year is so unique that I think some Powerhouse teams who have not adapted to this mentality and use previous winning precision formulas will fail. There are many teams that if things aren't PERFECT they will be useless.

We plan to compete and I for one LOVE this bringing everyone to a certain level this year. So many variables its going to be a constantly changing leader board.

As for match strategy it will change with the other two you have...I find it fascinating.
I'm not sure what you mean, but it is pretty clear that this is the year the rich get richer and the middle of the road teams have no way to differentiate themselves.

Look at 148 as an example. They will potentially empty the human loading stations entirely. That would be 3 stacks, with noodles and cans, and 2 stacks with no noodles/cans and 34 points in auton. Total of 184 points by themselves (plus coop points, if they do it themselves).

An average robot probably can't even create a 6 stack or takes the entire match to do so. Let's be charitable and say you could make a 6 stack and a 3 stack. That's only 18 points without someone getting cans off the step to cap with (which assumes someone other than 148 can cap cans). 18 points isn't trivial, but its 10% that of 148.

To be fair, even elite robots will fail to make 5 6 stacks on their own, so the bar isn't quite that high. But the overall contribution of the average team will still be minimal, compared to last year where you absolutely needed them to contribute in order to get high scores.

The only way a middle of the road team could have differentiated themselves was with a multi recycling can autonomous grabber...but the problem is the elite teams will all do it faster/better than those middle of the road teams do, leading to the middle of the road 2 (or 4) RC grabber robot being useless once lined up against the elite team with their 2 or 4 RC grabber robot.
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