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Unread 04-03-2015, 17:56
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Re: How will Alliance captains pick ?

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Originally Posted by MooreteP View Post
Your excellent strategy in the Playoffs is the model this year.
237 grabbed the RCs in autonomous, then 558 filled them with noodles and set them aside to put on whatever stacks you could make with 4557.
Had your alliance been more adept at acquisition and able to make higher stacks, you would have easily won Waterbury. (4th seed)
I expect to see you in Worcester and St. Louis.


As far as this thread goes, I submit that the top alliances will grab an RC, human player loading, capable of 5-6 tote stacks with an RC on top.
Most bang for the buck in qualifications.

The first pick should be a can grabber, the quickest will only get two in the finals, but with their 3x value, it's enough to multiply the value of any stacks, and as long as each alliance gets two, they've swapped queens. You need to get two ASAP.

I believe that the second pick is the most important. This is where scouting this year is quite difficult.
- Co-opertition points will skew the numbers and a modest stacking Robot that is consistently able to gain co-opertition with the other alliance will seed high.
This is worth little in the Playoff matches.
- Do you go for a hybrid? The warehouse worker that can do everything, but nothing well?
- Are you in a deep Regional (50-60 teams) or a shallow District (30-40 teams)?
- The seeding order may play strong this year. I think as the season progresses we will might see more 5-8 seeds winning Regional/Districts.
- By Einstein........

Don't even want to touch the statistical randomness of those $@#$@#$@#$@# noodles.

I was so worried about this game last week. Not anymore.
Its interesting... I am of course scouting so I watched both what was going on in IE and SF since we face bots in those.

A curious case of a team in SF (DEEP-50) placed low 30's in field of 50 and not picked
Would have been (estimating) #11 in IE (SHALLOW-39) beating the #11 in IE due to co-op pts and a definite alliance selection in that event...probably eliminating the 3rd bot on the winning alliance that is now in WC. So close yet so far.

A whopping 20ish place swing due to location played LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION think we'll do IE next year.
I think what this shows is good bots can certainly get buried especially in DEEP events by random chance of partner selection in qualification matches.
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Last edited by Boltman : 04-03-2015 at 18:44.