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Re: G10, The Dallas Disable & Crickets Chirping in Manchester

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Originally Posted by rich2202 View Post
If there is a team that is known to take a long time, then they will know when the end of the reasonable period is reached. Will they be disabled at that point? It all depends upon what else is going on. If other teams are still setting up, if the FTA's are working on a connection problem, etc, then, as far as I'm concerned, they can keep working.

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With a problem team, I'll be strict in letting them know they have reached the end of the reasonable period.

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Note: Q437 says that G7 repositioning should be a matter of seconds, so don't rely upon another 15 seconds to position your robot.
Bold emphasis is my own.

Hey Rich-
I just wanted to point out why so many people in this thread are concerned about the interpretation and enforcement of the 60 second setup rule.

The bold statements above are all extremely concerning to me as a team mentor. These are all 'judgement calls' and interpretation of individual referees which WILL be different, ref to ref, day to day and event to event.

Things like setup time varying based on whats going on elsewhere on the field? That doesn't seem like rigid enforcement, but then holding teams to 'a matter of seconds' not meaning 15 seems like a rigid enforcement of an unwritten time limit (aka an interpretation of a rule which will vary). What constitutes a problem team? A one time offender? Two times? Every single time? Can a team be moved off the 'problem' team list if they make adjustments?

It's simply too vague right now and is leaving a wide array of interpretations that have already reared their head in a bad way at an event resulting in corrective action from HQ.

-Brando
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