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Originally Posted by scca229
*Jon above said this much better, but still leaving mine as I feel better now.*
I'm guessing that this won't be popular, but since I'm going to have to deal with this crap in weeks 5 & 6 (maybe 4), and watching several threads all whining about the same thing, I'm going to spill it.
/being rant
I'm still trying to wrap my head around what the issue really is here. This is sounding a whole lot like my 11-year-old and 7-year-old having a "discussion". Frankly it is amazing to me that it is the "adults" that are the vocal ones here, but I will assume that teams only want one public voice and not a whole slew.
As far as I am aware, that 60 sec "guideline" has been in the Game Manual since Kickoff. It was not a surprise addition 5 weeks into Build Season that should suddenly make a team have to redesign their entire robot because their setup takes 2 minutes and they CHOSE to ignore it.
/end rant
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Nate,
We are not complaining. We are asking for some clarification and STANDARDIZATION. And yes, many of us are the voice for our teams for issues like this. Since Frank and the GDC monitor these threads I believe it is a good place to have such discussion. I respect your opinion, but simply disagree with it.
For everyone, here is G10 to reference:
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G10 DRIVE TEAMS may not cause significant or repeated delays to the start of a MATCH.
VIOLATION: The offending ROBOT will be DISABLED
--Start blue box --
DRIVE TEAMS are expected to stage their ROBOTS for a MATCH safely and swiftly. As a guideline, ROBOTS should be configurable in fewer
than sixty (60) seconds. DRIVE TEAM efforts that either intentionally or unintentionally delay the start of a MATCH are not allowed. Examples of
such delays include, but are not limited to:
A. prolonged use of alignment devices such as templates, tape measures, laser pointers, etc. to precisely place and/or align the ROBOT
B. late arrival to the FIELD
C. being indecisive about where/how to position a ROBOT or Yellow TOTE
D. failing to exit the FIELD once the green lights in the ALLIANCE STATIONS have turned off (indicating MATCH ready)
E. charging pneumatic systems, or any other ROBOT maintenance, once on the FIELD
F. prolonged assembly/disassembly of a ROBOT to transform it from its TRANSPORT CONFIGURATION
-- End Blue Box --
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I can tell you that G10 was arbitrarily enforced by the letter of G10. As a matter of fact, all of the disables happened BEFORE the green light was even on (yes, the robots that were disabled were already powered on).
I highlighted "configurable" because this, to me, is the crux of the communication issue. My team read this as "don't make a robot that takes longer than 60 seconds to put together with the new rules". We did not read it as do not take longer than 60 seconds to be back in the driver's station. Why didn't we read it that way? Because, on average, it has taken longer than 60 seconds for this in the past. This rule, to us, was a limitation on how much assembly and robot configuring you could do and seemed reasonable to us.
However, it is being enforced differently than that.
Paul