[Thunder360]

True you do make trade offs with speed and torque, one goes up the other goes down. I know that and Im also know we all started with the same rules and parts. But I think that in a profectional type setting like FIRST comp's.

I mean where is the fun in bending the rules by pinning a team for that amount of time. I can understand pinning for 25 seconds then backing off 3 feet. But I feel you cross the line when you pin for nine seconds back off a foot and ram back into the bot and push for nine more seconds, and this happened for about 35 to 40 seconds. Like I said before "how cheap"!