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Re: 2015 Arizona East Regional

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Originally Posted by The Lucas View Post
Odd ruling watching the webcast of Q51:
842 ended the match touching a previously scored (>3 secs ago) Coop stack in an attempt to score more landfill totes.
Announcer went nuts about they just ruined 40 pts (not surprising that a game announcer wouldn't know the specifics of Coop scoring)
Surprisingly, they posted the score without any Coop points (not even a set)
After a long delay (seemingly teams were discussing with refs), the announcer said the the refs had decided to count the stack. However, instead of a rules clarification he said it was in the spirit of GP that they counted it.
After another match, he tried to clarify that ruling by implying that they had moved 842 away after the buzzer and since the stack stood for 3 sec that is why it counted (not because coop points are awarded instantly and can't be descored).

Is there still confusion among the refs at Arizona over the nuances of Coop points scoring or is the announcer just not conveying their rulings well?

If it is just announcer confusion, it might be good for the audience of varied rules familiarity to explain how the coop stack points score permanently (3 secs after robots break contact, many refs give a hand count). Perhaps an extreme example, where 842 decided to disassemble the scored Coop stack and place the yellow totes upside-down on top of step containers and still scores 40 pts, would drive home the point.
One of my students, from 1492 went and talked to the head ref, and had it reveresed. In the end, the points were given to us after we specifically pointed out that after 3 seconds, the co-op stack is scored, even if it falls over after those three seconds. In the end, the co-op points were given.
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