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Re: Team 359 VS Team 610 Can Wars in Hawaii Finals
Based on the rules as we read it, a red card is issued for intentional or egregious (flagrant) foul. The head ref explained that a foul would be issued if contact occured on our side of the field the 1st time, and then maybe a red card should the situation repeat and robot(s) get damaged.
After semifinals match #6 in which the 1st of 3 Can battles occurred, 610's 2 stage carbon fiber arms did come over the cans and lock with our claws from our arms. When teleop started, as we tried to drive forward, the left side of the 2nd stage of 610's arm snapped off along with various claw pieces from our arm.
There were 24 points in penalties. We were told that 610's alliance received 4 because, when their arm flexes into our side of the field, it still constitutes a penalty for each game piece and robot(s) touched on our side. If the pole flexes, a penalty is assessed each time it bounces back to hit our robot. Personally, I am not sure what the exact fouls were, other than when 368 moved forward in auto and 610s arm with it contacting their can grabber.
After that match, the head ref told our driver (captain) that if our robot was damaged again in a similar situation where 610s robot was on our side of the field, they would assess a red card. The head ref also said she had spoken to them also, but we do not know exactly what she told them. All we cared about in the heat of the moment was getting those center cans. 
In the match shown in the link above, which was Finals Match #1 (2nd encounter of the can battles), we chose to just drive back and not lift our claws up until teleop. However, as the video shows, arms from both robots still somehow deadlocked.
In summary, having this opportunity to go head to head with 610 was exciting. We both wanted to do it, to see how things would pan out.
With the ability to change speeds of the robot from the driver station, and whether or not we wanted the claws raised during auto made it quite interesting as we tried to adjust on the fly as did 610 with their many modes of auto in acquiring the cans.
As for the timeout situation with 610, I'm sorry to have heard that after the competition was over. All I know is that during our elimination matches, the FTA was using his stopwatch to make sure 368 was setting up on time, causing some stress on our alliance to make sure we did it as fast as we could.
-Glenn
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Last edited by waialua359 : 31-03-2015 at 17:59.
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