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Re: Future First Championship News

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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik View Post
I understand that your whole point is to segregate all the ultra-competitive teams into one of the Champs. While this theoretically solves the problem of defining the "true" world champ, it seems to exacerbate most other problems people have.
The idea prioritizes the prestige and competitiveness of each event over travel costs. It definitely has its flaws, but it appeals to people like me who are motivated by the competitive side of FRC.

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Namely, it cuts off half of the champs population from ALL the elite teams
In the same way championship(s) cuts off 75% of all teams from the "elite" teams. If separation was undesirable, two championships was not the right idea. There is always some sort of cut-off.

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while maintaining all the logistical issues of two Champs.
The original source of the suggestion (I believe) was made after accepting that two championship events is unavoidable, as the venues are booked in advance.

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And since you've decided the premier event is the one that really counts for world champs, how is everyone at the other event supposed to feel?
Excited to meet and play with other amazing robots, and proud of their achievement to make it to a championship?

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let's just all agree that IRI is the definitive world championship. I'm pretty sure most people think that already anyways.
If that's not facetious, it's unfortunately quite an insular view. IRI is an off-season tournament in the middle of July, with very little prestige outside of a cluster within the FRC community. People on CD are usually clued in, but I'd bet many, if not most teams, have never heard of IRI, nor regard it as "world championship". Let alone sponsors, or administrators and parents who may have to fund another trip, or disrupt summer vacations, in order to allow students to attend.

The concept of having divisions is not new: for example, it exists in the sport I play (Ultimate Frisbee*) where we have Div I Nationals (top 16) and Div II Nationals (17-32).

We only made it to Div II this year: are we disappointed? Yes. Will we take Div II seriously? Absolutely, we want to win it**

*UK university
**disclaimer - I'm actually going to St. Louis instead of going to Nationals.
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