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Originally Posted by Skyehawk
I am starting this thread to discuss how cheesecaking can affect the success of an alliance to an extreme level.
Hopper Division Team 2512 (Duluth East Daredevils) had an OPR of 32.5. This is relatively low, and it showed, as 2512 finished with 52 ranking.
Then their luck turned around, picked by the number one alliance of 2826, 987, 4265 picked them. All of a sudden 2512 gets subbed in for 4265. And with cheesecaked can-burglers from 987. These grabbers are not the fastest at worlds, but they are capable of out grabbing 1114 and many others.
After all this 2512 had a VASTLY improved OPR not just due to the can-burglers, they found the sweetspot and everything clicked.
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2512 did much better in quals at Duluth and Peoria, enough that they were top seeds and ended up finalists in both events.
One of the things they did was an adjustment to the robot to make it a more reliable six stacker which was capable of doing 2 six stacks with noodled totes. Prior to champs they were mostly making capped 5 stacks.
That seemed to have affected their auton reliability. They scored an average of 17.8 in quals in Duluth and 19.3 in Peoria. On Hopper, they averaged only 9.2.
Their coopertition was also significantly down compared to the regionals.
I think Wave (2826) knew that 2512 was better than the stats showed and saw it fit into a team strategy. Removing 2512's 45% effective 20 point auton and adding 987s can burglers left them with an extra can or two and an extra 2 six stacks.
Watch the matches and you can see them always play that very consistent role, after the can wars they pick up a green container and trundle to the drivers station 3 corner, build a six stack with a noodled container (42 points) and a second 6 stack (12 points) with the remaining totes (unless Wave needed more to finish their 3 6 stacks). That had them contributing a reliable 54 points to each match in finals and doing an excellent job of staying out of 987's way.
Meanwhile 2826 did their 28 point auton plus 3 42 point stacks for 164 points and 987 would make 2 to 3 six stacks from the landfill with typically unnoodled containers as containers were available for 70 to 100 points per match.
If everything had gone perfectly in auton and teleop, they could have had 7 capped 6 stacks, 4 (maybe 5) with noodles which would have taken them to 312 or 320.
They worked very effectively as a 3 robot team and that's why they are the only ones who managed 290.