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Re: The Fraud of FTC Worlds - How FTC & FIRST have failed me forever.

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Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime View Post
They already have people operating cameras to livestream the events; why not use a video splitter to split the matches based on the match sounds? It really shouldnt be that hard to do and tbh FIRST needs to step up their game when it comes to recording matches.

Also I see no reason why you should not be allowed to bring your own footage into a discussion. You are trying to right a wrong and not get punished for a mistake that was made. I don't know why this rule is but besides the issue of time (you could easily do this by limiting video review to 2min or something like that) but I'm interested to know why it's not allowed.
To your first point, that's person. Singular. If you're trying to tell me that one camera is enough, I raise you a case where three refs all saw (or didn't see) the same thing that would have been very difficult to get a camera on with multiple cameras, let alone a single camera. A video splitter would be nice... got some money for FIRST to get one? Remember, and do I need to repeat myself, FIRST doesn't record the footage to my knowledge. AT ALL. So that means that somebody else has to record it.

And I happen to see a very good reason or two why you shouldn't be allowed to bring your own footage into a discussion. First is the crowding around the field. That's one extra person who has to come in, and then leave--and hopefully the review area isn't crowded (har har--ever been down by the field between matches? Yeah. Not quite rush hour on L.A. freeways, but pretty crowded.) Second, the quality of the replay. You bring in your camcorders shooting from the top of the stands, OK. And you view on their screen, you can't see anything, so you hook up to a monitor (which means that everybody's gotta have their adapter cables). Well, maybe the footage is pixelly... or aimed at the wrong robot... or blocked by cheering... or other similar items. Gotta do something about that, maybe. And third, there are a couple of potential fairness complaints. Along the lines of: "We don't have anybody taking video because we can barely get anybody to show up, and this other team has 5 camera operators on all their matches, and all the calls go their way" (yeah, I'm exaggerating) or "We can't get a good angle" or "We had the exact same play as these guys and they got their bad call reversed on video, ours should be too"...


Again, this whole issue has been discussed ad nauseum before. I should know. I started a serious thread to discuss the issues and potential solutions a couple years back. (Also take a look at the links in the first post in that thread.)

I'm thinking that this is going to be like the card system. IRI ran that for something like 6 years before FIRST adopted it--for Breakaway!
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