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Originally posted by GregT
edit: whats more, if FIRST did make a rule against "fixing" the match, how could you ever hope to enforce such a rule? Would not knocking stacks over be considered illegal?
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Nobody ever considered this: maybe FIRST did not ever think that people would stoop to that level on the basis of winning? This rule wouldn't be enforced by the referees, because as you said, it would be impossible. It would also be unnecessary if gracious professionalism came before winning. Nobody should come to a FIRST competition to win, they should come to learn. I think we're all learning a valuable lesson right now, just expressing our opinions on this forum, and that's what FIRST is trying to express to us.
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Originally posted by Stu Bloom
AND any team whose members/representatives are soliciting any pre-match arrangements with their opponent alliance members should be EXCUSED from the remainder of the competition. There is NO room for this type of behavior in FIRST.
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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=18979
To be honest, when we were approached in St. Lou, I was upset. I had never been in that situation before, and I did not know how to react. I was upset and angered that someone approached us with only the intent to win, especially when our team wasn't even MOVING at that point. I was incredulous as to how someone could have the audacity to approach our driver (a rookie) while we were all elbow deep in robot parts.
But I was wrong to judge, and I will admit that. That team that approached us ended up being good opponents and rightfully going on to the eliminations. After competition was over, one of their mentors emailed me several times and apologized for that mentor's behavior. I realized that the team had nothing to do with one person's willingness to cheat the system. So please-
DON'T judge or hold it against a team because of one member's actions!
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Originally posted by punarhero
i don't think we can start discussing ways of stooping this untill we all decide that it defies FIRST spirit and is wrong
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Dean was right, and he did predict the 'gentleman's agreements'. There is no use arguing what is wrong when there is no right or wrong. There's only ways to tell each other what can be improved and how we, as the FIRST community, can improve it.