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Originally Posted by Alex2614
When we go to two championships, getting to the top of one of the two championships is the highest you can possibly do in FIRST. You really think a sponsor is going to devalue you because you went to the absolute highest level possible?
Currently there are 4 champions. Now there will be 8. It is still a VERY small percentage of teams that make it to Einstein and win. No sponsor is going to devalue your championship win because there are 8 teams that win instead of 4. Our sponsors don't devalue our championship awards now that they are done on a divisional level instead of championship level. So we were finalists on our field this year. There were 32 teams that were finalists on their respective fields this year. Sponsors don't care about that, though. Similarly sponsors won't care if there are 4 winning teams or 8. It is still the absolute highest you can go. When we went to alliances, we went from having one world champion to 3 teams on a winning alliance. and then they added the fourth. The number of winning teams has increased by a factor of 4. The number of teams going to Einstein has increased dramatically, especially this year. Instead of 16, there were 32 teams on Einstein. Tell me if any of those teams' sponsors devalue that accomplishment.
As far as percentage of teams attending, you really think a sponsor is going to not sponsor you anymore because you made it to the top 25%? Championships used to feature 25% of teams and nobody devalued that. It won't happen now either.
As far as media publicity for the championship, FIRST is looking into hosting an event with the winning teams from the 2 championships to crown a champion. Won't tha be a lot easier to publicize and televise than 400 teams? It would be a lot easier to follow for people outside FIRST too. A "champion of the champions" event.
It's been proven that teams that attend champs are more successful at obtaining sponsors and support. Those sponsors would still sponsor them if they made it to one of the two championships. Why? Because it's the highest "event" in FIRST, just spread across multiple cities. Only 20% of teams get to go. Or better yet 10% of teams in the East get to go to the east championship. It's still just as marketable as before. Sponsors aren't going to care. They will care that you made it to a top tier, world level event that only 20% of teams in the world get to attend. That is still something very special. And our students are going to get just as much of an incredible experience out of it that they are now in St Louis or Atlanta.
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I see the point you are making however I wouldn't go as far as to make a generalization that all sponsors are the same because there are companies out there who take success seriously because its what they live for on a daily basis.
Will a lot of sponsors care about the changes in the FRC format moving forward? Like you said probably not it is still the highest level in FRC.
Are there some that will care? Yes.
Just like FIRST has mentors and students who participate in this program the same can be said for some businesses who sponsor teams. Some do it because its good business and they feel it is their obligation to support local organizations. Other companies do it because they like donating to a STEM program in line with their mission statement to make the world a better place while providing internships for local students. Some do it because they want to see the local program go far because what's better than showing off your company? Showing off the best robotics team in the world that you helped support. Their perceived value in making it to the highest level and winning is diminished so incentive to continue funding at that pace is decreased.
These relationships between companies and teams do exist so to assume that all sponsors don't care isn't true.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong but its a reality for teams.