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Originally Posted by zinthorne
Just a note 4911 had a fairly fast 2 rc grabber at champs that nearly got their alliance into finals. They were a 3rd pick due to some unlucky qualification match pairings. They only got to play one elimination match, but beat the other robot to the cans and got both.
My ideal alliance would be 4488, 3663, and 2471. I picked this alliance to maximize scoring, and consistency. 3663 and 4488 tied in PNW for the farthest playing team in worlds this year as division finalists. Both are very consistent, and both have can grabbers. 2471 has a 2 can grabber that is also fast. 4488 would put up three stacks of 6 capped and noodled. (They could start by grabbing a rc in the middle or by the right feeder station depending on the alliance being played...) 3663 would take the left station and one rc from in front of it, creating two stacks one capped and noodled and one not. 2471 would place on more can for 4488 to use and then make one stack of their own, cap it, then cap 3663 second stack. The remaining rc (if in possession) would be put on the highest stack remaining. Once 3663 is done with the second stack they can go and do a 4-6 high stack from the landfill.
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a few problems with this, at least for me. the first is that your entire alliance has issues with downed containers (which was the main reason I chose 4911 over 2471; I've seen them handle the cans better overall than Mean Machine). While they had a great robot, the main reason CPR advanced so far into playoffs was their brilliant scouting, allowing them to create a super solid alliance in one of the strongest divisions; keep in mind that 492 technically placed higher, qualifying for Einstein (even if they never played a match on there), and that was because they were on the best team in their division. Also CPR would have neither the time nor the ability to go from the Landfill (I have gone to every event they have, and they have never done landfill). for your alliance, I feel like the Skunks would make more sense (assuming you want all 4 containers, if not, 955)
[quote=Dunngeon] "I agree with your first pick, although 4488 performs much better on the right feeder for obvious reasons."
I was visualizing the feeder stations from the step, not behind the alliance wall, sorry for the confusion
[quote=Dunngeon] "948 will provide the auto, but little else the alliance needs. This third bot would preferably be able to play with tipped over cans, and create 2 of their own capped stacks. 948 doesn't do tipped over bins and rarely (ever?) did 2 full stacks."
I was relying on 4911 to right containers in the way my team did for CPR and 255 did for 4488, eliminating that issue. also, having been the lead scout for my team, I watched every match on Curie, and seem to remember them doing 2 capped 5 stacks in tele during elims, and 1+ during Quals (since they did co-op instead)... I have some evidence here (although my team unfortunately stole all their containers, so only one stack is capped)
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015cur_sf1m1 these appear to be 6 stacks, too, which makes my argument for them even better
Skunks are a good pick too, though
(sorry, havent figured out multi-quoting)