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Re: Overview and Analysis of FIRST Stats

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Originally Posted by AGPapa View Post
This is a really well written paper, thanks for putting it together!

I have some questions about how to choose VarD/VarO and VarN/VarO since I'm unfamiliar with MMSE estimation. How would you go about choosing these values during/before an event?



Does this method lead to the same overfitting that using the training data as the testing data did with the LS estimators? Choosing the apriori variances after the fact to get the best results seems wrong, or is the effect actually too small in reality to be a factor? It seems like each set of training data also needs to find what variances work best, and then apply them to the testing data, instead of "searching" for the best values and applying them after the fact.




From this I'd expect that the values for VarD/VarO to be largely dependent on the game, yet the data shows that the "best" values depend very little on the game. For example, in the 2014 Newton Division the best values for VarD/VarO for sCPR was 0.10, but for 2014 Galileo it was 0.00! The complete other side of the search range! How can two divisions in the same year have such different values?
Yes, these are fair points. They're only picking 1 or 2 values for an entire tournament, but yes, they are searching. I might ideally suggest that the values be searched for an entire season (where the game is the same) to find the 1 or 2 values that are best for the entire season's worth of tournaments. It might also show how things are different from year to year.

They do vary from tournament tournament because again there just isn't enough data in a tournament to settle on a "true" underlying value.
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