[RonnieS]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Michigan had a ton of absolutely killer machines.
67 was two feeder stacks, a tote stack auto, and some of the fastest can grabbers. 1918 and 2137 were similarly good, but without the tote stack auto. 2054 was killer early on, and their autonomous routine was insane. 70 and 494 were unique machines that could pull two stacks from anywhere and hit a tote stack auto. 217 and 1718 were interesting niche picks with good can grabbers that each made division finals. 85 at their best was making three capped stacks of 5 in Carson qualifications, and they also had a one can grab. 27 had a crazy year, making it to both MSC and Galileo finals. 2959 and 4967 were two other great landfill machines from Michigan, who generally made about 2 stacks in a match. You also can't forget 503, who had some of the other fastest can grabbers out there.

I think the only two machines you could for-sure put in the MI top 5 are 1023 and 548. 3rd has to be 33, because they were byfar the best landfill robot in Michigan, and one of the best in the world, as well as the 4th overall pick at IRI.
Next could be any of 27/67/68/70/107/314/503/1918/2054/2137/2959/3641/4967 depending on what attributes you value more and what competitions you look at.

By performance at worlds:
27- Division Finalist
67- Division Finalist
68- Division Quarterfinalist
70- Division Semifinalist
107- Division Quarterfinalist
314- Division Semifinalist
503- Division Semifinalist
1918- Division Semifinalist
2054- Division Quarterfinalist
2137- Division Finalist
2959- Division Quarterfinalist
3641- Division Quarterfinalist
4967- Division Quarterfinalist

Basically beyond your top 3 teams, there's extreme parity among the rest of Michigan's elite.

You do not receive any extra points for using the landfill that I am aware of? so please explain how 33 can be better than teams that could stack more from human player station just because they were the best Michigan LF bot(which I am not arguing)? Yes they had a 20pt auto, but without noodling a majority of their stacks(they had alliance partner noodle one at champs and they did the first one) I don't see the same and we can agree to disagree. Now 67 as a two stack machine...I don't think it happened as much as the season wen't on but yes they had fast grabbers. This is all opinion and we can go on for days going on about it. I just would not go as far as "extreme parity" when comparing a team that does 126 points versus a team that does 84/104 with auto.

-Ronnie