[Ken Leung]

There is nothing wrong with debate, as long as it is a productive and organized one.

What's been happening in the 4 threads aren't organized debate at all. A bunch of people posted about 50 threads for half a day, then more people come in posting without reading the existing posts, then 10 more people come in to correct some of the mistakes, then 10 more people come in to correct those correction, and it continue and continue and continues.

Same things have been repeated over and over, and it's impossible to keep track what's going on and who said what. It just turn into a lot of finger pointing, instead of figuring out what's the best action to resolve this issue.

I myself tried reading the whole thread, but when I reach to about page 4 I got really tired. Imagine all the people gather in the same room, and the threads turn into real life discussion. Imagine what a mess that would be.

I suggest locking the threads for a few days, not forever. So sit back, read through the 20 pages of stuff, and come back with more organized thoughts.

I also suggest some of you more level headed people act as moderators in a discussion, and organize it into something more productive. Someone to keep track of all the opinions and suggestions, and make sure no one's shut out just because their opinions aren't part of the majority. And the goal should be coming up with something that most teams agree with, while making sure it fits the spirit of FIRST and Gracious Professionalism.

Well, this is my suggestion anyway. If you choose to go back to the flaming and bashing and yelling and screaming and finger pointing, this will be the last time you will hear from me.