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Re: pic: ABS-110, lightweight 2-speed PTO gearbox

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Originally Posted by Chris is me View Post
From the title at first I thought this was an ABS gearbox and I was concerned. Looks good though! Generic comment about supporting your CIMs marginally better goes here.
Interesting that you noted that. All of my other gearboxes have a better cim support, but I elected to forgo it in this case due to the lack of demonstrated need for one. A couple of my old gearboxes which were actually manufactured did not have cim supports and functioned ok, and I figure that will hold true for this as well.

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Originally Posted by JesseK View Post
This latest round of gearboxes seems to be missing a very critical (IMO) component for the implied WCD setup they're for: the outer bearing block for the direct-drive wheel. Would adding that bearing block (such as the WCP one) cause issues? It simply requires adding two extra threaded holes around the existing output bearing hole.
I was planning on not using a bearing block on this one and instead directly pressing bearings into the 2x1 and using a double sprocket, however I will add mounting holes for the WCP bearing block just in case. Thanks for the idea!

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Originally Posted by Joey Milia View Post
I had a look at your ball shifting shaft and the shaft itself looks fine. I found it interesting that you made the shaft wall 1/8 thick so the balls can't fully engage, that might be a problem with wear depending on gear material and tolerances but it could very well be totally fine.

What I am very concerned about is bearing load. Its seems you're using R1212 bearings and according to lily bearings (http://www.lily-bearing.com/ballbear...12-bearing.htm) they only have a dynamic load rating of 111 newtons and static rating even lower. These numbers may be very conservative (or just wrong) but I would recommend doing some math and researching the ratings of the actual bearings you'd use to see if they'd work. If not, look into bushings or bigger/different bearings.
I am using Boca SR1212-ZZ, which has a stated dynamic load of 94kg (207lb). I figured that would be enough for these, but I can swap them for bushings relatively easily if needed; that would also remove/reduce the need for spacer shims.
Thanks for pointing that out.
The balls should be able to fully engage with the grooves in the gears. I made sure that the balls wouldn't be able to "get stuck" in the grooves, but not so much that it wouldn't engage. What do you mean?


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Originally Posted by Nathan Streeter View Post
I've never designed a PTO gearbox, but this one inspired me to think about it more... as I was thinking about it more, I couldn't come up with how a gearbox with a single shifter shaft / output shaft could be used to get a PTO... After having thought about it a bit more, it seems to me that it requires having 2 shifter shafts OR having the shifting shaft not be the output shaft.
Nailed it! That was my thinking exactly; I've struggled with this problem in the past.
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