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Re: Outer works and such.

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Originally Posted by cglrcng View Post
Truncated; ".....and in order for you to take a "trap" or defense down you must cross over it going the same direction (I'm pretty sure it's the same direction, correct me if I'm wrong.) "
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Please point out any specific rule or section of the rules that state a defense crossing (in/of the Outer Works), is a one directional item to score please (and I don't mean the Boulder Rules), I mean the Defense rules as it relates to scoring concerning Damaging the Defense items in The Outer Works & a or any specific direction you must travel across it. (I have yet to see one and have a lot of questions concerning them in both Auto and Teleop).

For a boulder to score, I agree that a rule does exist that it (a boulder), must originate or reach the Neutral Zone (must begin completely in the neutral zone), then cross the Outer Works properly (there are limitations), then be scored high or low in the tower goals. But, Boulder Rules are not Outer Works/Defense Item Scoring Rules. (What about those boulders that are stuck in the Secret Passage and never actually make it to the neutral zone? It cannot originate there, and I currently don't believe they are dead boulders from that point forward).

Can you receive a boulder directly into your bot from the HP behind the Castle Wall, drive to the neutral zone, then across the Outer Works, shoot & score? Of course you can or a vertical drop re-entry or re-introduction method concerning boulders back to field from the Castle wouldn't even be there).

The only place any of us have seen what "appears to be a robot in action" or proposed gameplay concerning the 2016 FIRST FRC Game STRONGHOLD yet, was in a very simple short production animation introduction of "The 2016 GAME"....and the robots only crossed The Outer Works going one direction, but words used say crossing the Defense items in The Outer Works, never mentioning any required directional order of crossing (though Boulder rules do). Don't ever take the animation as an end all....Leave that to the actual Game Rules!

But, if you can point to a rule concerning "one way direction"...Please point it out.
In the glossary :
CROSS
an act performed by a ROBOT, such that it starts free of contact with an opponent DEFENSE and completely in the NEUTRAL ZONE, traverses the DEFENSE such that its BUMPERS go fully between the adjacent SHIELDS/GUARDRAIL, and ends up fully contained by the opponent’s COURTYARD

going over the defenses the other way around is legal, but DOES NOT give any points or damage the obstacles
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