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Originally Posted by T3_1565
There is a rule against flipping over the Low Bar 
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I think you may need to add the word "completely" to that statement or quote the actual rule here such as: (I did not quote the actual rule that applies to this discussion as I cannot currently find it, but did post the rule I was looking for in a quoted post below). Of course I found it right after I posted, and I will this one for sure again, no doubt in my mind, just as soon as I hit post (it is the nature of the beast I believe since I'm already suffering from the post kickoff 4 day rules reading/discussing FRC whigout blues).
G18 ROBOTS may not extend more than 15 in. beyond their FRAME PERIMETER. Violation: FOUL. If repeated, offending ROBOT will be DISABLED.
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The rule you are looking for actually states that you cannot "completely" flip/pass (or something approximating that), over the Low Bar...Meaning that your robot must pass under the Low Bar and not over it in order to traverse and damage the DEFENSE. But, that does not mean your robot cannot flip a manipulator over the low bar at all given the wording adding in the word "completely".
And, I am not saying the action would be legal in any manner at this point (since only the GDC Q&A could answer the question and they don't open the Q&A until later today. But, I wonder if a robot could attempt the following and have it be determined to be a legal action (or rather not an illegal or prohibited action)....I personally see nothing in that rule that would make it an illegal action, but...I'm not the GDC or The Deciders of game legal actions....Q&A again opens tomorrow.
Proposed actions:
A Robot collects a boulder with a boulder manipulator attached to the rear frame structure of their robot (call this manipulator the Boulder Handling hand or gripper), the robot is long, narrow, and very low (and the Team of Robot Builders fear that after their Boulder Manipulator is added to their really low long robot it may/will drop the boulders during their fast pass under the Low Bar and its additional curtain & bottom bar, so they devise the following play routine). It starts up the ramp & through the Low Bar area, the Boulder handling gripper on the rear gripping the boulder reaches over the top "Low Bar" Defense bar, and as soon as the skirting and lower bar clears the front of said robot, the gripper places (never losing control of the boulder as the robot is in full possession the entire time), the boulder on the front area of the robot, and the manipulator retracts and folds back into a low position on the robot rear section. The robot continues through to the Courtyard and scores the boulder in low goal or delivers it to a high goal specialist alliance member to shoot high. Return, rinse, repeat.
Other rules state that you must carry that boulder across maintaining a certain amount of "boulder control" and pass through to the courtyard with your boulder. And "the Robot" did not flip or travel completely over the Low Bar, only a robot manipulator and the boulder did, and I did not see any rule concerning the boulders not being able (as long as in possession by the robot, not thrown over since possession is then lost for a period of time), to pass over the bar if properly done. That robot would still pass completely under the top bar of the "Low Bar."
Now, the keys are asking the question in a much shorter version to the Q&A, that is not phrased in a "Game Strategy" manner, and getting the answers of whether that violates any game rule or not.