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Before I begin, please everyone do not turn this discussion into a student-built vs engineer-build debate. I feel like this could turn into that VERY quickly.
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Yeah I agree, I didn't want that.
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Also, many of the so-called elite teams are also all student designed and built. You'd be quite surprised.
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Sure, No issues here. I wan't trying to imply that beautiful robots WERENT student designed.
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AndyMark.biz was selling gearboxes in "the old days" of 2005. FRC gave you a full drivetrain and instructions in the kit too! This discussion has been had many times. My team thought about the AM gearboxes in '05, and shelled out for them in '06... and I've been giving Andy & Mark my money every since.
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I actually didn't know Andymark went back that far. Gearboxes might be the straw that breaks the back of my argument.
Let me try to be a bit more specific, maybe I got a little too passionate and didn't use the right words. I didn't mean the mentors sit back and let the students screw up; I more meant for the mentors to teach concepts behind various designs and let the students apply it (and drop key suggestions when necessary).
The biggest reason (for my team particulary) is that for whatever reason, we can't seem to build up and retain that organizational knowledge. We're trying to train up new students as they move through the program, but there seems to be an upper limit to how much information we can cram into their brains before they cycle out of the program. It's entirely possible (maybe probable) that we just aren't doing a good job _teaching_. *shrug*