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Unread 30-03-2003, 04:59
DougHogg DougHogg is offline
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Non - GP-ism at SVR

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Originally posted by Bill Gold
Don't think that if one of your opponents was somehow disabled or a no show you wouldn't be extatic at the chance your team could rack up tons of points.
I see what you are saying. However I personally wouldn't be ecstatic about that. Imagine that through some massive fluke, an opponent no shows in every match, so your team winds up the winner and gets a trophy. Would you feel great? I doubt it. I certainly wouldn't because I would know that our team didn't really do anything to earn it. When I go to a FIRST competition, among other things such teaching our students to use their knowledge, meeting friends and admiring each others robots, I go to compete, and that means that I need opponents. I just want opponents that will abide by the rules, so its fair and honorable. Some tipping is going to occur, but deliberate tipping is against the rules. Also I don't think it is unreasonable to hope that teams will indicate that they aren't deliberately tipping other robots, by showing some concern. (True, we won't die if they don't.)

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Originally posted by Bill Gold
Getting back to robots tipping and being flipped... It's either a design flaw on your partner's part (high CG) or something else which could have been avoided.
Well I agree with you. Most of the time, a team whose robot tips should just take responsibility for the fact that it happened, due to design, driving, etc. But sometimes, another team has a robot flipping cow catcher or they just went too far by ramming a robot really hard that would obviously tip because of being off balance, and then I would say something about it, because that is part of being responsible also: communicating when something is out of line.

Yes, you are right, FIRST is not in a life and death struggle, but we are trying to change the world. That's pretty important, and the game is helping us do that. So I guess the game matters to that extent.

Anyway, I like this game. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to keep it friendly.
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