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Re: Shooting Percentage for week 1

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Originally Posted by Nathan Streeter View Post
Have you seen the blue box added to G22 in Team Update 10 (scroll down)? It pretty clearly answers situation B...



I - personally - am disappointed to see this update that came late in the build season (and which flew under my radar until yesterday). We largely avoided designing around scoring from the batter based on concern with being pinned in. This update probably is good for the broader elevation of scoring, but further reduces viable defensive strategies.

Particularly if we end up having trouble scoring as accurately as we need from farther out, we may still be able to use the base of the tower as a "safe" shooting location.



The ambiguity opened up by the potential for non-contact pinning definitely does make this situation (and Wayne's situation A) more vague and subjective than I like. Hearkens back to some of the 2014 refing woes (although hopefully much less common).

EDIT: I'm adding a link over to the Team Update 10 thread for commenting on this fact... it seemed that it hadn't been mentioned in that thread up to now.
Yes, I have seen the Update 10 wording. I agree that it clearly answers "Situation B", but is ambiguous on "Situation A". When it comes to the G21 exception to G11 (G11 Blue box item C) the GDC chose to let robots do what they need to do to play the game without being penalized. In the case of G22 on the batter, the defending robot could be considered to be taking legitimate game-play action up to the point where the scoring robot makes there shot - but then maybe not. It makes a big difference to how the game might be played.

I have tried to submit the question to Q&A, but can't manage to get into the system. I tried my normal login ID and the Q&A login from TIMS with no success. If anybody else wants to submit it, please do.
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FRC 1918 (Competing at Standish and West MI in 2016)
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