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Re: Are these bumpers legal? (Another bumper thread)

I started out making the argument that although I could clearly read the zero in the team number, I felt it was illegal because the logo contained symbols that were not numerals, and non-numeric symbols are not allowed.

However after further review, I think I convinced myself that it is legal.

The manual states in section 1.4:

Quote:
The intent of this manual is that the text means exactly, and only, what it says. Please avoid interpreting the text based on assumptions about intent, implementation of past rules, or how a situation might be in “real life.” There are no hidden requirements or restrictions. If you’ve read everything, you know everything.
When I read the section requiring only numerals on the bumpers, the manual does NOT require the numerals to be written in the standard western arabic numeral system. We've all assumed that it does... but it doesn't SAY that it does. Yet, "If you've read everything, you know everything." Clearly the numeral system is not defined, and therefore intentionally open to interpretation.

So, I'd probably pass it and submit a Q&A seeking further guidance, and suggesting that the manual be adjusted to specify the legal numeral system(s).

As a side point, I'd probably suggest that there be a mention that the team number be written in base ten as well... now that I think of it, I'm sort of surprised that no one has shown up with their team number in binary or hex...

Jason

For a list of some of the more creative numeral systems that could be applied:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numeral_systems

I'm thinking Ancient Egyptian numerals would be awesome... (I think I was composing this as the comments about Roman numerals were added, above...)

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