[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

Q912 posted.

and now answered:

Originally Posted by Q912

• Q. During Teleop, robot RedA procures a boulder in the neutral zone, carries it through a defense, and pauses with its front wheels in the courtyard, but with the rear still in the outer works, where it launches the boulder into a high goal. RedA then completes the crossing (clearing its rear bumpers of the outer works). Is this boulder scored? Are technical fouls given under either G40 or G41? (Suggested by G40 blue box case B.)
• A. Yes, the BOULDER is scored. No, there are no TECH FOULS assigned per G40 or G41, as the ROBOT met the requirements of completing a CROSSING as defined in Section 3.1.3.

So it is not necessary to cross and then back into the outer works to be protected, but it appears you do have to follow-through. This should help, because if you're still on your inward traversal, a robot blocking you on the courtyard side is more clearly interfering with your travelsal (G43). On an outward traversal, it would not be so clear, and perhaps the referees have been informed that this is not a G43 violation. Now to see if it'll get called that way consistently, or if the referees were too overtasked to see these.

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

So you're telling me crossing completely, backing up so your bumpers are over the outer works (to gain protection) and shooting is, in your mind, illegal unless we then proceed to cross back from the courtyard? Neither G40 nor G41 are relevant as a boulder is not moving into the courtyard from the neutral zone (and as far as I can tell there are no rules regarding carrying the ball back).

No, simply that:

• Launching before completing the crossing is legal.
• Perhaps backing up into the outer works does not merit much protection from a robot on the courtyard side of you.

What is illegal is incompletely crossing from the neutral zone side, launching, then backing out to the neutral zone without ever completely entering the courtyard on that boulder cycle (G43). Someone had implied that this was unnecessary if the defense were already damaged.

Edit: here it is:

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb)

I was talking about specifically about scoring a high goal while your bumpers are resting in the outerworks. Finishing the cross doesn't mean anything since you only get points for going one way.

The point is if you are in a CROSS, carrying a boulder, and launch it, it does mean something - if you don't complete the cross, you've committed a technical foul. If you're in a traversal outwards, I agree that it is unnecessary to continue that traversal.