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Unread 01-03-2016, 11:10
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Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5

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Originally Posted by Jessi Kaestle View Post
Not trying to justify the lack of calls, just give an alternative perspective.

*Note: I did not see any of the videos in question where there was a potential G43 penalty that was not called

Firstly, please remember that the Ref's are human, and are volunteering their time. Sometimes people make mistakes

This year is a complicated year for the Ref's and there is a lot that each ref needs to watch and that visibility might be poor. Remember that the students are the volunteers customer, that means that both the students on *your* alliance AND the students on the *other* alliance. If you back up so that your bumpers are just barely in the outer works and it's not obvious then a ref might miss it.

My assessment is that if you are planning to shoot from the outerworks so to take advantage of it's protected zone status, you should make it obvious to the refs that you are in the outerworks.
I concur I think teams expecting a ref to see the nuanced move of entering the courtyard and backing into "protection" are dreaming. The only way I see this working consistently is when crossing before you leave the platform (slight pause) you shoot HG because of the initial "protection" of the obvious crossing action.

This applies also to bots expecting the ref to see "solo" sally door bumps or drawbridge taps...don't count on it. They missed many obvious crossings "no sensors" let alone "tricky" solo ones.

Don't count on getting calls or credit. That's a failed assumption in a game as complex as this from a reffing standpoint (and scouting standpoint)

I think the refs will as time goes on get the basics down...the rest though is dreaming.
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Last edited by Boltman : 01-03-2016 at 11:13.