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Originally Posted by Jessi Kaestle
Not trying to justify the lack of calls, just give an alternative perspective.
*Note: I did not see any of the videos in question where there was a potential G43 penalty that was not called
Firstly, please remember that the Ref's are human, and are volunteering their time. Sometimes people make mistakes
This year is a complicated year for the Ref's and there is a lot that each ref needs to watch and that visibility might be poor. Remember that the students are the volunteers customer, that means that both the students on *your* alliance AND the students on the *other* alliance. If you back up so that your bumpers are just barely in the outer works and it's not obvious then a ref might miss it.
My assessment is that if you are planning to shoot from the outerworks so to take advantage of it's protected zone status, you should make it obvious to the refs that you are in the outerworks.
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I would also have to disagree. A member of 159 posted a picture earlier in the thread that actually sparked most of the conversation. (
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...2&d=1456635860)
This is a missed call. I'm not blaming anyone and realize this is a nuanced rule, but it should be made a point of emphasis in the next few weeks by FIRST if the calls continue to be overlooked. The potential for penalties is highest around the outerworks and secret passage, these zones will need to be watched closely.
Thanks GeeTwo for asking/finding the Q/A for this. (
https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/Que...ot-is-still-in)
Again, unclear situations are going to be common, but with a ref standing almost in line with the outerworks, it should be fairly easy for them to call it in cases like the above photo. I also believe that if it does start getting called with frequency the defender will have to play more cautious and that should lead to offense having a bigger window to sit in to shoot.
Edit: I think I misread the reply I was quoting. I do agree with making it obvious to the refs, I thought you said you didn't
see any cases where it should have be called. Not that you hadn't
seen any of the videos where it should have been called. Most of my reply still makes some sense though. So I'll leave it up.