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Re: Backup Coupon Warning

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Originally Posted by New Lightning View Post
So in the case described by the OP, the refs or whoever was in charge just entered the team number before they figured out that the team was unable to compete>
Well yes, because that's how the rules work. As scorekeeper, the Head Ref tells me (or the FTA, who then tells me) that alliance _ used their backup coupon, and I, with the FTA(s) oversight, enter the backup based on the avialable team list.

Here's (as of 3/9/2016) 5.4.2 from the game manual, which deals with backup robots:

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Originally Posted by 2016 Rules 5.4.2
In the Playoff MATCHES, it may be necessary for an ALLIANCE to replace one of its members due to a faulty ROBOT. ROBOT faults include but are not limited to:

1. Damaged mechanicals,
2. Electrical issues,
3. Software problems

In this situation, the ALLIANCE CAPTAIN has the option to invite the highest seeded eligible Team from the pool of available Teams to join its ALLIANCE. The Team who’s ROBOT and DRIVE TEAM replaces another ROBOT and DRIVE TEAM on an ALLIANCE during the Playoff MATCHES is called the BACKUP
TEAM.

The resulting ALLIANCE is then composed of four (4) Teams. The replaced Team remains a member of the ALLIANCE for awards, but cannot return to play, even if their ROBOT is repaired.

Each ALLIANCE is allotted one (1) BACKUP TEAM Coupon during the Playoff MATCHES. If a second ROBOT from the ALLIANCE becomes inoperable, then the ALLIANCE must play the following MATCHES with only two (2) (or even one (1)) ROBOTS.

Example: Three (3) Teams, A, B and C, form an ALLIANCE going
into the Playoff MATCHES. The highest seeded Team not on one
of the eight (8) ALLIANCES is Team D. During one of the Playoff
MATCHES, Team C’s ROBOT suffers damage to its mechanical arm.
The ALLIANCE CAPTAIN decides to bring in Team D to replace Team
C. Team C and their ROBOT are not eligible to play in any subsequent
Playoff MATCHES. The new ALLIANCE of Teams A, B, and D are
successful in advancing to the Finals and win the event. Teams A, B,
C, and D are all recognized as members of the Winning Alliance and
receive awards.


In the case where a BACKUP TEAM is part of the Winning or Finalist ALLIANCE, there will be a four (4)-Team Winning or Finalist ALLIANCE.
Note that there is no opt out provision. Your coupon gets you the highest seeded undrafted team. No if's, and's, or but's. Honestly I think it is an unforeseen issue that should be fixed by an extra provision, however, I'm not on the GDC.
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