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Re: Video Review Needs to Happen Now

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery View Post
So, the district system is over then? Because you're not going to find many high school gyms with the scaffolding/catwalk to support an overhead camera like that. Heck, I'd bet more than 50% of regionals would have to find new venues as well, as plenty of college gyms and convention centers wouldn't be able to support that.

Even if we can't get the ideal view of the field, it doesn't mean there's no sense in trying to get as good a view as possible. Some things can be imperfect but still very much worth implementing due to great improvements (ie having refs that occasionally make mistakes as opposed to not having refs at all)

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I've watched plenty of videos. Mistakes will always be made, but mistakes are part of any sport. Not just FRC. Video replay is not a panacea to fix those officiating errors, which is my point. It's a lot of added cost and complexity, for minimal return. There's still plenty of opportunity for blown calls. Anyone who has followed the NHL this season, and its roll out of expanded video review, will attest to that. More people are complaining about the additional video review than any other officiating issue this season.

I'd argue that we aren't adding much complexity with cameras already set up for streaming, and I wouldn't call overturning matches minimal return. While the NHL has had problems, when the MLB introduced video review it undoubtedly improved the fairness of the game in a huge way despite not being called up nearly as much as other video review systems.


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That "simple solution" isn't viable in the majority of FRC venues. That simple solution doesn't solve anything regarding interactions underneath bumpers. Specifically, that system cannot answer close calls in terms of CROSSINGS this year, because it cannot see underneath the frame/bumpers of a robot to know if its wheels fully cleared the defense.

Some things are easier to call than others, and with a game like this no matter how many cameras you have there is bound to be a little ambiguity. However as I've said before, video evidence should only overturn calls if it indisputably proves the call incorrect as judged by referees reviewing the video. This may lead to a lot of improvements, and it may not, but I can definitely say that it can only help to give it a shot.
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