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Re: Real Week 2 update

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Originally Posted by Chris is me View Post
This proposition is inherently contradictory. You are asking for an "unbiased" volunteer to introduce bias into the schedule based on their perception of historical robot / team quality. No matter how you slice it, that is biasing the results even farther from random than what they are, and there isn't even a chance of a volunteer doing this "fairly".

Changing the algorithm to try and pair teams of different ages with each other was tried once, in 2007, with generally disastrous results. The match making generator is already far from random when you consider all of the constraints on it - adding more constraints to make schedules "fairer" all but requires loosening one of the other constraints. In 2007, this meant matches had a consistent mix of young teams, old teams, and middle aged teams... at the cost of having to play with and against the same robots over and over again. It was almost universally disliked.

My advice? Get over the fact that schedules won't ever be "fair" however you see it, and work on becoming a team that isn't dependent on a perfect schedule to play well into Saturday / Sunday afternoon.
Been there done that already as I repeatedly said this did not affect us (but may affect others).... we held our own in CV and Ventura last year both days . I think that small changes could be made though to benefit all teams and saying that's "just the way it is" is not really acceptable.

I foresee maybe about three glaring inconsistencies that may need to be adjusted per "powerhouse" event... an hour of work maybe just making sure it does not mess another team up. The system is decent I believe it can be improved. Just like missed defense crossings that also can improve. Pretty sad when Portcullis crossings are missed especially the way we did them
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