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Originally Posted by Boltman
Incapacitated robots are still subject to all foul just as a working robot is. I doubt the strategy was to go for a tip and get a free scale fouls in last 20 (heck all three robots could have earned a free scale by touching the fallen bot and if all three did that then that was smart understanding of the rules ) Was it the "plan" or simply an opportunistic play? I don't see a G11 based on the description IMO
I think tip happened not planned and then they took smart advantage of the situation in the last 20 seconds.
In reality ...your bot should have not been anywhere near there in last 20 seconds to tip.
Teams have to realize... any robot on their side of the field including even more so a defense bot are HIGHLY subject to FOULS, TECH FOULS and CARDS as that is where the rules FAVOR the attacking alliance especially in last 20 seconds.
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Just to be clear the tip occurred with over a minute left in the match.
I think that if a robot is dead in their own courtyard you "force" the penalty on them by driving into them (in an action that is not a normal game function, such as an attempt to get onto the batter).
Just check out the blue box under G11
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G11 does not apply for strategies consistent with standard gameplay, e.g. a TEAM obtaining a BOULDER from their SECRET PASSAGE,
CROSSING an opponent DEFENSE, etc. G11 requires an intentional
act with limited or no opportunity for the TEAM being acted on to avoid
the penalty. Examples include:
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B. A Red ROBOT is parked in the NEUTRAL ZONE near the Blue
SECRET PASSAGE. A Blue ROBOT pushes the Red ROBOT into the
Blue SECRET PASSAGE, then drives away. There is no violation of
G21 by the Red ROBOT, as the Red ROBOT was forced by the Blue
ROBOT into the SECRET PASSAGE. The Blue ROBOT has violated
G11 by forcing the Red ROBOT into the SECRET PASSAGE for the
sole purpose of causing them to violate G21.
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Can you explain the difference between G11 resulting from you pushing a robot into your secret passage and G11 resulting from flipping a robot and later taking advantage of the dead bot?
Also, flipping a robot better not be a "strategy consistent with standard gameplay".
I will reiterate:
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G11 requires an intentional act with limited or no opportunity for the TEAM being acted on to avoid the penalty.
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There was no possible way for us to avoid getting flipped and then
run over by robots on the opposing alliance in the last 20 seconds.