[Boltman]

Originally Posted by BotDesigner

Just to be clear the tip occurred with over a minute left in the match.


I think that if a robot is dead in their own courtyard you "force" the penalty on them by driving into them (in an action that is not a normal game function, such as an attempt to get onto the batter).
Just check out the blue box under G11



Can you explain the difference between G11 resulting from you pushing a robot into your secret passage and G11 resulting from flipping a robot and later taking advantage of the dead bot?

Also, flipping a robot better not be a "strategy consistent with standard gameplay".

I will reiterate:



There was no possible way for us to avoid getting flipped and then run over by robots on the opposing alliance in the last 20 seconds.

The way I see it IMO is you chose to put yourself at much higher risk of penalties (and tipping) by choosing to play defense knowing that (if you look at the rules) most game play fouls will be called because of actions your alliance does on your side of the field. Plus last 20 seconds that area is not a good place to be in.

The tipping I do not see as being pre-meditated unless you have shown prior you are very tip-able and always have played defense so any alliance might plan and think lets tip them and get free scales...I sort of doubt that was the case.

I think what happened is you played defense and got tipped in game play as defensive bot strategies usually are fairly aggressive...that is the the breaks. You had a choice of not playing defense too, and not risking as much direct contact.

The fact teams later fouled you after being tipped is just smart game play IMO and kudos for them knowing the rules. I don't think anyone would not want a team to be opportunistic within the rules.

Who is to determine best "path" to batter a straight line or a swerving one that touched a dead bot at less than 20 seconds?

As for secret passage it should be pretty evident that a bot got pushed in it, even so that can be a tough call too if its just defense jostling near SP.