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Re: Silicon Valley Regional (2016)

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto View Post
After we challenged the decision, thinking 254 was contacted by 3303 in the last 20 seconds, the referees discussed. They determined that 1678 and 1662 were both interfered with by 3303 in the last 20 seconds and gave both robots scale points.

<snip>... there was quite a bit of boo-ing from the audience after the scoring change. I think this has become one of the unfortunate cultures at SVR, and it isn't the first time that 254 has been boo-ed at this event.
5.5.3 and T19 do not provide challenge as a remedy for incorrect referee decisions. The audience was given the impression, reinforced by the Game Announcer's statement, that the score had been changed based on a challenge.

Many of us can point to situations, like this one, in which a clarification request (allowed by T19) has had the same effect as a challenge. The perception that some teams are allowed to challenge referee decisions may contribute to the "unfortunate cultures at SVR", and at other venues as well.

I agree with Mike that the video clearly shows 3303 contacting multiple red alliance robots during the endgame. I think the scoring change was reasonable, and that many referees would have called the match that way initially.
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