[EricH]

Originally Posted by AaronSchmitz

If that happens it's easy to wave off with no foul as I do here. If you don't start the count until say 3 seconds in (assuming you're going to give the offending robot 5 seconds to get away), it's not fair to the pinned robot since they're now pinned for up to 8 seconds. In this particular case 2907 had also been pinning aggressively (but legally) throughout the event, so I felt very confident starting a count right away.

Again, it's fair to say this call is questionable. If it were a fellow ref, I wouldn't call it wrong either if they started a pin count or didn't. If 2907 were 2' back and to the left so that 1540 can't back away I'd say pinning is definitely the right call and the count should start immediately, but it's so hard to determine field-side -- especially in the heat of the moment.

Yep, I agree with you on that. I trust your judgement on that--you were there, I'm not. And I would agree that the pinning robot was playing smart, legal defense--they backed off as soon as they saw the tomahawk.

With regards to T-boning I can't give a general answer, but if the T-boned robot is in contact with some other object and it's motion is stopped or significantly impeded, do you feel this meets the blue box for G22?

I did see a ref at an event I was at start to call pinning on a T-bone in open space... With the "victim" moving. Just started, though. Great chance for a zebra discussion...