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Re: Making STEM a better place for women

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Originally Posted by AmiableVariable View Post
Awkwardness and harassment are two different things. I can be an extremely awkward person- and it is never pleasant to look around and see confused looks. I am defining harassment is when the actions are focused on another person or group and can be perceived as threatening or degrading. What are you using to define the difference between the two?

We may be referring to different degrees of embarrassment as well. What I am trying to refer to is the near inevitable embaressment that results when one is told, however kindly, that they crossed a social line. The only ways to reliably avoid this are to either not cross lines, or to not be informed when you do. I do agree that mentors and authority figures can and often should take the option to not publically shame someone when they try to redirect them, depending on the context. The student being bothered, however does not have this responsibility of extra care, as they already have no choice in getting tangled up in the matter.
I define harassment as repeated and targeted, the way the law does. It is possible to still be creepy and have poor manners, but not harassing. Even if they have not been informed they are making someone uncomfortable by the person in question, you should still advise them that they could be making someone uncomfortable.

What I have been explaining is that one should not be embarrassed for something greater than what they actually did. I have been saying that multiple times now.

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