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Re: 2016 Minnesota State Champs

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Originally Posted by jwhite View Post
I agree with Caleb, I think it's an odd incentive. It feels a bit like coercion to boot.

I do suspect that you'd see a drop in chairman's if you take the 10 points away. I know we were submitting before we knew about the 10 points, because our former coach was good that way. But I know I watch it much more carefully, and make sure of the deadline, because of those 10 points.

I'd vote to reduce it. Maybe 1 or 2 points. That could make it a nice tie breaker; if you had two teams that were otherwise pretty equal, give the nod to the one that submitted Chairman's. That feels more fair.

Or, and here's crazy talk: it'd be nice if you got a score on your chairman's submission. You could use that to gain points, and might be a nice way to encourage students to continue submitting. It's pretty hard to submit it year over year, knowing full well that some other amazing and well deserving team is going to win it. But if you had a score that was yours, that you could strive to improve year over year, I could see that being a valuable incentive.

Cheers,

Jeremy
I like using a chairmans submission as a tie breaker much more than the current one: high score. High scores, in general, do favor later week competitions, and there isn't that advantage in chairmans submissions. So while chairmans submission frequency would still be high (simply to clinch a tie breaker rather than 10 points), I would rather have chairmans submissions be worth none or nominal points and instead be used as the first priority tie-breaker.

*The scoring of individual submissions is alright in theory, but I feel this could be subject to judge inconsistency. I don't feel bad enough about the idea to fig against it, but I see this as a possible point of complaint. Someone will find fault with it, whether it be them not wanted the fact their team scored a 1/10 on a chairmans submission public for everyone to see or for some other reason.

*am I misinterpreting your last paragraph?

Edit: high scores is not highest priority tie-breaker. But my support still stands that I do like RCA submissions as a tiebreaker more than points
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