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Re: Texas UIL State Championship Qualification Information

I have some slightly different #s: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

I don't think it changes the top 32, but just changes some ordering within there. For instance, Drakxii has 1296 with 60 pts, and I couldn't figure out what we might be doing different from each other.

I removed EI/Chairmans from award points then averaged event scores otherwise (qual + alliance + elim + general awards), then added in the EI/CHairmans/RAS + Rookie/2nd year bonuses. I didn't not include any out of state EI/Chairmans/RAS either, as the only ones I'm aware of (Spectrum and Appreciate) don't affect anything other than order within the top 32.


The top 50ish I see are

Code:
Rank	Team	Total points
1	frc118	73
2	frc3310	73
3	frc148	72
4	frc4587	71
5	frc4063	64
6	frc5431	58.5
7	frc231	57
8	frc3005	56.5
9	frc1296	55
10	frc2848	53.5
11	frc5726	52
12	frc624	51.5
13	frc1477	51
14	frc2468	50
15	frc57	46
16	frc6133	45.5
17	frc6171	45
18	frc5775	44
19	frc5572	43
20	frc2158	42.33333333
21	frc5057	42
22	frc5829	39
23	frc3847	38
24	frc4301	38
25	frc5417	37.5
26	frc2881	37
27	frc3679	35
28	frc5986	35
29	frc3481	33.5
30	frc3802	33.5
31	frc2583	32
32	frc6144	31
33	frc2805	30
34	frc5414	28.5
35	frc3366	28
36	frc2789	27
37	frc3743	27
38	frc3999	26.5
39	frc4639	26.5
40	frc3355	26
41	frc4192	26
42	frc4364	26
43	frc5411	26
44	frc418	25.5
45	frc4694	25
46	frc5242	25
47	frc2587	24
48	frc2882	24
49	frc3676	24
50	frc5892	24
51	frc5981	24
52	frc6196	24
As far as everything else in this thread goes - it is what it is for this year. There are advantages to FIRST being a UIL recognized program - and I believe that FiT has made their choice based on how to help the most students. Everything about it was kind of rushed (and happening at a weird time) - which implies to me that there is probably good reason why it's going down the way it did - whether it's due to a big gain or avoiding a big loss. It may be that FIRST would have been left in the dust as another robotics program became the UIL program. That would mean that it could become even tougher for teams to get support from their district. Being UIL could mean travel money for teams whenever they qualify for the "next level". It can mean students can get letter jackets (which while it's something silly in my book might mean something to plenty of students that wouldn't really letter in anything else).

Yes, it stinks for a a number of teams. I'm not really sure yet if we'll be UIL so we might be one of those that would have to apply this year for TRR. Maybe it's time some San Antonio teams started forming an off season event so that there's another one within driving distance? And like others have said - this is a band aid fix to this year. I'll be curious to see how it is addressed in future years and it'll probably be a learning process. It's still not clear to me if when we move to districts will there be a district champs in Week 7 (that UIL teams would be recognized at?), world champs, and then "UIL State" champs in May? That could be a lot of competition in a short time for many people.

I think it's good to make sure that those that are impacted in a negative way to make sure their voices are heard. But I don't believe this is creating a "second class" type team - it's UIL piggy backing off of an existing program and allowing people that meet UIL requirements to go and compete in it. Once UIL isn't part of TRR - the only people who will care if they win UIL state champs will be people that can go tell their schools/district that are UIL members. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic - but I don't see this negatively affecting anything beyond this years TRR at a high level. It may very well cause issues with individual teams that are associated with districts that will want them to be UIL eligible though. But I stated above, I'm sure the numbers game points to more students being positively impacted (a district/school that shows better support or starts an FRC team because it's UIL) then negatively impacted (an existing team no longer allowing non-UIL students). With FIRST being a worldwide thing - it's not like any of the regionals/district competitions would have anything that impacts teams with non-UIL members. [/ ]
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Last edited by ahartnet : 14-04-2016 at 17:29. Reason: don't think I said anything others havent in my last three paragraphs, so I added some appropriate emoji.
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