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Re: INsight: Indiana State Championships

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Originally Posted by HenryBlack View Post
Finals Match 1: https://youtu.be/fwnnv3AKi8I
Finals Match 2: https://youtu.be/CDKZ8zo4ubA

While you might just see simple defense, I see a coordinated strategy by the CyberCards! At first, it seems like it might have been a happy accident in the first match. Perhaps it was! But a second time? In two matches? Too strategic to be an accident!

Notice how in the second match, 1524 allows 447 to slip into the courtyard in order to wait for 1501... Strategic!

1501 had previously had little to no issues with their treads before the finals! And then twice in two matches!

What is odd, however, is this was extremely similar to Finals Match 3 of Perry Meridian! Take a look!: https://youtu.be/L8mz-pHRbJ8
Ramming the side of a robot to play defense in the neutral zone... Looks exactly the same!

The key difference being... 1501 was red-carded and disqualified! For extending into the frame perimeter and causing damage to 1024... Wait a second... Isn't that what 1529 did to 1501? Twice?
Sorry it seems like I'm defending 1529 so much. I love 1501 and 1529 but 1529 had many reasons to target 1501. They had the best high goal average on the alliance. They were tall. And last of all, they were the team that would have been most affected by slowing cycle times from impact. I find your targeting at 1529 not very well thought out with inconclusive evidence.

Edit: After watching match 2 again, 1529 hit 447 as well. They weren't just targeting 1501. Their goal was to slow cycle times. In the first match, 1529 hit 1501 3 times and the tread came off. In the second match, they hit 1501 2 or 3 times when their tread popped off. If you look at the head ref, he is counting pin seconds. 1529 was obviously not trying to pin 1501 seeing as they never really pinned them for more than 2 seconds which is very normal.

Also, the fact that the wonderful referee crew didn't seem to even consider a card tells me what 1529 was doing was probably very legal. The referee crew in IN has been amazing and they really knows their rules. They would have easily been able to pick up on a strategy aimed at intentional harm.
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IN Purdue District Event Winner (With 1024 and 2197) | IN District Championship Winner (With 1024 and 292)
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