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Originally Posted by gp2013
Not at all, I can fully understand how a tipped robot would feel to lose by being tipped. My point is that the rules need refining. There are better ways to resolve the issue of a tipped robot than just issuing a red card.
The reality beyond the red card is that mentors now have to deal with the fallout - from upset students, to mentors simply walking away from the program, to sponsors wondering what happened.
It isn't about the win or loss it is about the fairness of the issue.
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Then suggest a viable refinement?
Are mentors and students really walking away from the program because of one "bad" ref call??
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But if a tip is a tip how is every tip NOT the same. I don't understand. You can't have it both ways. Either every tip results in a red card, or there are subtleties that need to be clarified for referees when calling red cards.
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I could probably write out a 10+ page document on all different types of tips and how they occur and how I would theoretically call them and why. There are too many scenarios to write out, and thus it is left up to the refs. Also I never said a tip is a tip, I said a tip impacts the alliance regardless of how it was executed, and referees thus should be less more critical of their calls on said tips.