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Re: Blocking 2 ball autons

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Originally Posted by jspatz1 View Post
"G13 During AUTO, ROBOTS may not enter the volume above the MIDLINE.
Violation: FOUL. If contact is made with an opponent ROBOT beyond the MIDLINE (either direct
contact or transitive contact through a BOULDER), an additional FOUL is assessed and the
opponent ROBOT is immediately awarded the CROSSING of the closest DEFENSE from the point
of contact."
In my interpretation, transitive means direct contact. Once I release a boulder from my robot I can no longer be in transitive contact with an opposing robot through that boulder. I do not think that an opposing robot will get to the mid-line ball faster than the ball reversed out of the defensive robot will. Transitive is not defined in the game manual glossary, so it is open to interpretation.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik View Post
I actually think this is the only viable option, since it's really unlikely you can successfully start between the midline and your opponent's secret passage. Here's what the auto would look like:
Setup: In front of defense 1 lined up to intake ball 2 (one down the line from the one you opponent's intaking).
1.Rotate to face your opponent's dropped ball, outtake at high speed.
2.Rotate straight, intake mid-line ball.
3.Cross defense in front of you.
4.Score ball in auto.
This is more along the lines of what I think would work, but for a mid-line block rather than finding the opposing dropped ball. There is no rule that a robot start with bumpers parallel to the field walls, a robot could start angled so that it can immediately release its intake ball to knock the mid-line ball off course. Then it can either cross or (in your more daring method) attempt to intake a mid-line ball itself before crossing. I think the strategy only really makes sense if your robot has little to no chance of scoring a high goal in autonomous (low goal only bot, defense bot with less shooting capability), in which case the extra mid-line ball after defending the 2 Ball auto is a pretty low benefit for the effort involved.
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