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Smile Re: #FIRSTChampLIVE Announcement

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Originally Posted by joelg236 View Post
The thing is, there's no alternative that will let you watch the full field & still see specific robot actions. I doubt the majority of viewers are on phones though. (I really hope not, for their sake)
Considering that the majority of regional's first day of competition is on fridays its completely possible that many on their phones watching, as they may have school/work to be focusing on also.

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Sure, you can argue that you won't be able to see anything happening in the lower segments, but you're not losing anything.
You lose everything on the bottom portion of your screen, which is something.

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I think their point is, most regionals are full field views already. All this does is remove the space above and below (the scorer's table and the queuing walkway), moves the field up a bit, and adds more screens. They're not shrinking anything down, since it's still the same width.
Being a curious person with nothing to do on a friday night, i went ahead and ("super scientifically") tested this.

Using an 1080p 22' screen (along with some compressed youtube footage) i got screenshots of the full field view at the PNWDCMP (easiest to get for me) and one from the Alamo regional. I then ("super scientifically") cropped out everything in both shots except for the field.

While doing this, I ran into a slight issue. Because of the angle of the PNW stream, I would still get the back A/V crew if i included the high towel goals. I was unsure if anyone would create a fuss about that, and to account for it either way I included 2 PNW's: PNW1 has the high goals, while PNW2 has just the actual field, nothing else.

Now, I measured the amount of pixels from the bottom to top of the image (as thats the space it will take up on a screen) and compared them.

PNW1's pixel length is 393 pixel units.
PNW2's pixel length is 280 pixel units.
Alamo's pixel length is 411 pixel units

Alamo has about 20 pixels more than PNW1's view. Im guessing because of the much better angle Alamo used than what PNW did, proving that the viewing size (when in full field view) didn't change.

Another thing (maybe it was because it was not an official feed, but a reupload from manning robotics) the width was 1700 pixel units instead of PNW's 1900. If that is from the official feed with nothing changed, that is a small shrink horizontally, which would make the viewing worse for users with smaller devices.

This topic may be good for another thread, seeing as it could help improve streams.
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